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TOPIC: How do you make this sound?

How do you make this sound? 3 years 10 months ago #18955

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I'm talking about the sound that comes in briefly in this song at 0:33
right after that koto or whatever string instrument that is.

Something similar is also used in one of illgates songs


I'm totally in love with this sound but I just havent been able to produce anything like it in Massive. :dry:

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Sid
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How do you make this sound? 3 years 10 months ago #18961

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If you're talking about the synth sound that sounds like it opens up and then drops off real fast and sometimes has an echo that's not too bad to make. Cool sounding. I'm not sure if it's the sound you're talking about or not but the key is mainly the effect so I'll focus on the effect rather than the tone of the synth. This is a filter envelope trick. Pick a synth sound you want to use with this effect. One with a solid amplitude sustain. Route all the oscillators to one filter which will be a low pass filter and bring it down a ways (probably all the way). Create a filter envelope that has a longer attack and drop everything else down as far as it goes. So no sustain, no decay, no release. Apply the envelope to the filter. Start at about 70% but you can mess around to fine tune it. The amount of the filter envelope you're applying controls how open your sound will get from it's starting point and the attack will control how long it will take to get there. So if you want a quick buildup then use a shorter attack on the filter envelope. Once the sound reaches the end of the attack cycle it will drop back to it's original value sharply as the other settings should be 0. Then just add to it whatever effects you want. For the delay effect the guy in the first one uses you need to use automation. That I can tell the delay isn't always triggered so you'd want to probably have multiple tracks running. Put the delay on one of the tracks and set your delay settings. Automate the delay to "On" when the sound is going to hit the peak of it's attack cycle so that it's only delaying the last part.

Anyway check it out and see if that works. If you have any questions let me know. Those concepts should apply to any synth including massive. I've been using massive alot recently and it's very powerful once you get used to it's routing system.
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How do you make this sound? 3 years 10 months ago #19009

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i am also not 100% sure what you mean. but at around 0.32 there is a short and subtle reverse of (most probably the string sound) with a delay on it.
take a synth with a sound like this (lets call it string) let it play one or several notes, put a reverb on it. put a delay on it (delay: synch, automate from fast to slow.) freeze it, then turn it to audio. reverse the audio snippet. play with stretch and transpose down or up untill you like it. put another delay or/and reverb on it. :-)

it could be the reverse effect that you mean since ill gates has that big time layered into his synth there.

hope thats what you mean?
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How do you make this sound? 3 years 10 months ago #19010

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You both definetly know which sound I meant. Simply reversing string instruments does the trick. :silly:

I kept thinking it just needed some kind of exponential attack and neither operator nor massive do that and the performer curve is too steep :dry: I heard FM8 has better attack envelopes, anyone have any experience with it?

@Mr Fork
The filter trick you suggested gives the sound kind of a formant quality even without any resonance, which is great for basses and glitches and stuff but it doesnt quite work with string sounds.

Thanks for the quick replies.
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How do you make this sound? 3 years 10 months ago #19016

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did you try abletons "tension" plug in? i dont know it so well, but it seems to be made to simulate strings behaviour.
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How do you make this sound? 3 years 10 months ago #19017

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Wicked!

No I didnt know about Tension, ha Ableton really has got it all :side:
Thanks mate.
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How do you make this sound? 3 years 10 months ago #19024

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I must have been listening to the wrong sound man. Sorry. Glad MOutcast was able to help you. I tried my suggested solution for the sound I heard but I didn't get a formant. I probably didn't explain it right. Glad you got it worked out though.
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